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  • More than two PIN codes per card

The Dual PIN feature is really great, it allows me to pay for both private expenses as well as shared expenses using a single card.
If you're a bit obsessive like me about controlling your finances, then having many accounts for different kinds of expenses is really neat. Currently, if you have to make a payment with a card you can "only" choose between two different accounts. If you want to pay from a third account you'd have to carry around a second card (which bunq allows for luckily).
It would be really nice if I could set more than two (unlimited?) PIN codes that target different accounts so that budgeting becomes much easier.

    Hi David

    Do you know you can switch through all of your accounts using the app?

    BTW, if for example 25 PINs would be possible it would also be a security problem. Now the chance of the right pin is 2 in 10000 / 1 in 5000. If you would have 25 PINs it would be 1 / 400.

      By "switching through all of your accounts using the app" you mean I can reassign the card to a different account? Or do you mean for online payments? These things were familiar to me ;)

      I get what you mean with the security issue. We could tackle this by using 5 or 6 digit PIN codes?

        @bivab#95925 Ik neem aan dat hij bedoelt dat je de betaalkaart aan iedere betaalrekening kan koppelen.
        Persoonlijk betaal ik bijna alles met mijn telefoon. Dus dan heb je altijd de app bij je om te kunnen wisselen.
        Het zou wel fijner zijn als je sneller van betaalrekening kan wisselen.

          Every merchant sends a category of the shop with the transaction. It would be nice if bunq uses this information to redirect the transaction to a specific account. Maybe also for different merchants.
          On the other side such a feature could be very complex and for many users not necessarily useful.
          But bunq is the bank of the free so you could argue that enabling this feature is free to decide.
          Have a great day 🌈

            @JeroenE#95928 Can you choose the account when paying with Tap & Pay? I always have my phone with me, so that would work for me in many cases where contactless payment is supported.

              @JeroenE#95937 Ah, but this requires me to open the app first and then change the account. I thought you meant during or even after the transaction itself.

                @richtejo#95934 Volgens mij is dat alleen bij MasterCard. Ooit had bunq een functie om repeterende betalingen van 1 merchant naar specifieke rekeningen te zetten maar dat hebben ze afgeschaft omdat bleek dat het te ingewikkeld was omdat goed te krijgen.

                  @richtejo#95934 This is an example of why IFTTT would be nice :)

                    @LH-Black-Wolf#95994 Yes, automatically charging the correct account based on certain criteria would be even better. But I would settle for moving a payment afterwards to the correct account manually (and I don't mean forward, but really move and delete).
                    Having multiple PIN codes seems the easiest to implement however, although with some security considerations.

                      ma dove e il cvv i 3 numeri sul retro della carta? senza quello come si fa usare la carta per acquisti online

                        @Giancarlo-Indigo-Shark#96024 You can see it in the app under the card details of the card in question. You can even change it for security reasons.

                          @bivab#96023 Moving transactions between accounts would be awesome. For legal reasons, I don't think it would be possible to delete from one and add to the other. But even hiding the original transaction and displaying the inter-account transfer as an original transfer, would be great. I pay from a wrong account more than once every week. And I'm not talking about accidentally paying with a 'groceries' account instead of 'monthly'. I think budgeting with multiple IBAN's is the wrong tool for that (off topic).

                            @Casper-Yellow-Wolf#96179 Je kan die transactie ook niet half verbergen in de app. Want dan klopt dat toch ook niet? Je hebt immers niet met een betaalkaart betaald maar van de ene naar de andere bankrekening overgemaakt. En dan is het gek dat je bij rekening X wel geld hebt betaald maar het op rekening Y niet hebt ontvangen omdat het is verborgen samen met de pintransactie die je van de verkeerde bankrekening heb betaald.

                              @JeroenE#96195 I get what you are saying. I mean this, when I pay something from account A when I should have payed it from account B, currently you correct this by transferring the amount amongst the accounts.
                              That shows as follows:
                              1. The initial payment transaction in account A
                              2. The correction payment from B to A, in account A
                              3. The correction payment from B to A, in account B
                              Let alone when using the request feature. You request to yourself and also accept it. Not user friendly.

                              What I propose is a β€˜relay’ feature that, in the front (but for example, still visible in the account-events screens), hides number 1 and 2 and alters the appearance of 3 so it looks as if the initial payment was from that account (maybe with an added note/symbol that it was relayed).

                              Proactively however, bunq should consider adding swiping gestures on the accounts screen. That way it is a lot harder to pay from the wrong account.

                                @Casper-Yellow-Wolf#96179 Automatically categorizing payments into virtual/smart accounts (budgets) also seems like a good solution for this.

                                  @Casper-Yellow-Wolf#96200 Ik begrijp je wel, maar dat is juist wat je volgens mij dus niet kan maken als bank. Hoe kan je legaal aan je klanten een transactie laten zien alsof het een pinbetaling is met een kaart terwijl dat in werkelijkheid een overschrijving van de ene bankrekening naar de andere bankrekening is?

                                  En zeker als je dan in het bankrekeningoverzicht iets anders laat zien dan in het algemene overzicht dan maak je het mijns inziens alleen maar nodeloos ingewikkeld en ga je juist meer vragen oproepen. Je hebt dan dus verschillende overzichten in je eigen app die niet met elkaar kloppen.

                                  Wat als een klant gaat bellen naar een service afdeling van een extern bedrijf die de betaling vanaf rekening B helemaal niet kan vinden (omdat hij was betaald vanaf rekening A!) en dat soort ongein.